Calculations on a HDB purchase versus rental (for singles)
After reading Uncle8888's post, I thought I would just do a quick post on how one would fare buying a HDB 4-room resale flat that costs $360,000 as a single (assuming single at 35yo and flat is with 70 years lease left i.e TOP 1991).
The table below is a super simple illustration of the rental yield plus saving cumulative over a period of 70 years, assuming the rental of a room is $600 per month.
Disclaimer: I did not factor in inflation of rental over the years nor utilities / income tax or possibility of years when there's no tenant renting.
Disclaimer: I did not factor in inflation of rental over the years nor utilities / income tax or possibility of years when there's no tenant renting.
Year | Renting cost | Collection of rental (2 rm rented out) | Rental yield + saving |
1 | 7200 | 14400 | 21600 |
2 | 14400 | 28800 | 43200 |
3 | 21600 | 43200 | 64800 |
4 | 28800 | 57600 | 86400 |
5 | 36000 | 72000 | 108000 |
6 | 43200 | 86400 | 129600 |
7 | 50400 | 100800 | 151200 |
8 | 57600 | 115200 | 172800 |
9 | 64800 | 129600 | 194400 |
10 | 72000 | 144000 | 216000 |
11 | 79200 | 158400 | 237600 |
12 | 86400 | 172800 | 259200 |
13 | 93600 | 187200 | 280800 |
14 | 100800 | 201600 | 302400 |
15 | 108000 | 216000 | 324000 |
16 | 115200 | 230400 | 345600 |
17 | 122400 | 244800 | 367200 |
18 | 129600 | 259200 | 388800 |
19 | 136800 | 273600 | 410400 |
20 | 144000 | 288000 | 432000 |
21 | 151200 | 302400 | 453600 |
22 | 158400 | 316800 | 475200 |
23 | 165600 | 331200 | 496800 |
24 | 172800 | 345600 | 518400 |
25 | 180000 | 360000 | 540000 |
26 | 187200 | 374400 | 561600 |
27 | 194400 | 388800 | 583200 |
28 | 201600 | 403200 | 604800 |
29 | 208800 | 417600 | 626400 |
30 | 216000 | 432000 | 648000 |
31 | 223200 | 446400 | 669600 |
32 | 230400 | 460800 | 691200 |
33 | 237600 | 475200 | 712800 |
34 | 244800 | 489600 | 734400 |
35 | 252000 | 504000 | 756000 |
36 | 259200 | 518400 | 777600 |
37 | 266400 | 532800 | 799200 |
38 | 273600 | 547200 | 820800 |
39 | 280800 | 561600 | 842400 |
40 | 288000 | 576000 | 864000 |
41 | 295200 | 590400 | 885600 |
42 | 302400 | 604800 | 907200 |
43 | 309600 | 619200 | 928800 |
44 | 316800 | 633600 | 950400 |
45 | 324000 | 648000 | 972000 |
46 | 331200 | 662400 | 993600 |
47 | 338400 | 676800 | 1015200 |
48 | 345600 | 691200 | 1036800 |
49 | 352800 | 705600 | 1058400 |
50 | 360000 | 720000 | 1080000 |
51 | 367200 | 734400 | 1101600 |
52 | 374400 | 748800 | 1123200 |
53 | 381600 | 763200 | 1144800 |
54 | 388800 | 777600 | 1166400 |
55 | 396000 | 792000 | 1188000 |
56 | 403200 | 806400 | 1209600 |
57 | 410400 | 820800 | 1231200 |
58 | 417600 | 835200 | 1252800 |
59 | 424800 | 849600 | 1274400 |
60 | 432000 | 864000 | 1296000 |
61 | 439200 | 878400 | 1317600 |
62 | 446400 | 892800 | 1339200 |
63 | 453600 | 907200 | 1360800 |
64 | 460800 | 921600 | 1382400 |
65 | 468000 | 936000 | 1404000 |
66 | 475200 | 950400 | 1425600 |
67 | 482400 | 964800 | 1447200 |
68 | 489600 | 979200 | 1468800 |
69 | 496800 | 993600 | 1490400 |
70 | 504000 | 1008000 | 1512000 |
The rental yield is approximately 4% if both spare rooms can be rented out and the owner stays in.
Assuming that one takes the maximum loan tenure from HDB at 2.6% PA, how much accrued interest would one have to pay for the flat hypothetically?
Reference: https://www.cpf.gov.sg/eSvc/Web/Schemes/TotalInterest/TotalInterestCalculate |
Looking at the table above, it would be approximately $130,000.
The actual cost of the 4-room flat would be 360,000 + 130,000 = $490,000. This is without taking into consideration any accrued interest from the use of CPF.
As such, the break-even point would be in year 23. Although one would have reached age 55 in year 20.
If one decided to sell the flat anytime before reaching 55 years old, the accrued interest from CPF usage would need to be refunded back to the CPF account together with any grant (also with accrued interest) and the flat resale amount to make up the minimum retirement sum. Balance from the sales proceed would be the pocketed earning.
I won't go into details of how to calculate the accrued interest for CPF savings used (aka I don't like chomping too much numbers). You can find the details here and here.
Basically, it's the sum used-to-date plus 2.5% PA (we have to do the calculation for yearly and add them up). If one decided to stay in the purchased flat till one kicks the bucket, then there's no need for accrued interest repayment.
Basically, it's the sum used-to-date plus 2.5% PA (we have to do the calculation for yearly and add them up). If one decided to stay in the purchased flat till one kicks the bucket, then there's no need for accrued interest repayment.
Assuming that the rental income plus saving can yield a 4% cashflow per annum, say from investing, it can be compounded to approximately $844,184 after 23 years. [correction] Or $669,573 if compounded at 2% PA.
In a nutshell, one would probably not earn much upfront cash from flipping an old flat (technically speaking flat purchase is "house leasing" from gov). If we stay in it or bunk in at parents' after the purchase then collecting rentals can help to enhance our cashflow as illustrated above.
However, if one has spare cash that are rotting in the bank, it might be a better choice to pay off as much of the loan as possible so that there would be less snowballing of interests. As such, the breakeven years can be shortened.
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Excellent! You can count. LoL!
ReplyDeleteHi Uncle8888,
DeleteHaha, it's just a simple "enter figure and drag down the column" Excel calculation.
I did likewise for calculating life insurance - premiums and its surrender values. :P
We can tweek the figures and play around to see how much is considered affordable.
Hello Rainbow girl,
ReplyDeleteEh... How do I put it across to you without hurting your feelings?
By treating you as an adult and not patronising you just because you're a girl ;)
(I'm that guy that you can trust to tell you when you have vegetable stuck in your teeth, or your blouse button has come undone)
1. How does your calculations help you to decide whether its a buy for your 4 room resale flat at $360K???
At $360K, will it be a buy or rent for you? You did not say.
Spur had offered the "scholarly" formula for determining whether is better to buy or rent - its textbook formula found in Investopedia, just to let you know.
Mine is a much simpler rule of thumb used by experienced property buyers to get a quick assessment ;)
You can count and calculate, but I'm afraid you're going off tangent...
2. I was wondering why you have this unhealthy "obsession" with CPF accrued interest payback thingy?
Now that you have indicated that source and link, ah! No wonder!
Just pause and think for a moment why veterans like CW and Spur say it does not matter.
And that goes for the MAJORITY of Singaporeans who bought their flats using CPF.
If its a BIG issue, wouldn't you hear more about it? From real people, real stories? Not just hypothetical examples? Wink.
Why do the MAJORITY of HDB buyers - both BTO and resale - still use CPF instead of cash to service their housing loans?
Can't they count? Or maybe they don't know about this CPF accrued interest thing?
Trust but Verify for yourself.
Don't believe or let what I say affect you. But apply the same to whatever you read in the internet.
This CPF accrued interest bogeyman is often used by property snake oils to steer HDB bei kambings to their schemes...
And sometimes by youths who monkey hear, monkey write in THEORY, not from their actual experiences ;)
Hi SMOL,
DeleteWhy do I wrote this post? Of course to get some serious poking from veterans! Those who have "been there, done that", like what you said not just hear-say from theory.
Don't worry, I don't have glass heart. :)
1. I saw Spur's comments and you must be talking about this https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/price-to-rent-ratio.asp.
Actually I have calculated and found that... it's sama sama. Assuming suburb rental of whole flat unit (purchase wise seems like only suburb 4 rm can be found at 360k) at $2000/mth. $24000 x 15 = $360,000
(Magic figure or what? Lol)
So to buy or to rent in this case will depend on other personal factors.
2. I figured that if a Singaporean is to buy the flat as home to stay, then the CPF accrued interest does not really matter. No flipping property. Did I get your point right?
As for property snake oils, I would be interested to hear about their schemes. Care to share?
Oh, that screenshot table up there it's the accrued LOAN interest (2.6%) from HDB that I am talking about.
Delete(In case you thought that's part of my obsession about the CPF 2.5% accrued interest to pay back on flat sale.)
Rainbow girl,
Delete1. No. Its not your tables. I was thinking when we are making a BUY or RENT decision, what has CPF accrued interest got to do with anything?
This CPF accrued interest thing is more about HOW we are going to finance our housing loam - in cash or CPF?
And that only applies AFTER you have made a BUY decision ;)
That's what I meant you going off tangent...
2. Try goggle CPF Accrued Interest. See the number of posts by "vested interests" and by young writers writing for a living and not necessarily sharing about something they know first hand ;)
Then read this:
CPF Accrued Interest - Will It Really Come Back To Haunt Me If I Used It To Finance My Property?
Refreshing coming from "vested interest"... But then again, as a snake oil myself, I can see why he is doing so.
But what he says has more "truths" than your home-made source ;)
Her hypothetical example of someone selling their HDB after 30 years for $800K but still has to refund CPF for $900K, that's a good example of datamining statistics to fit our preconceived conclusion...
Ask yourself, if after 30 years your HDB's appreciation is BELOW the annual CPF 2.5% interest, will you still make a BUY decision today?
Can it happen?
Of course!
Like in HK now where people are looking to emigrate out.
Or Singapore has become an economy basket case 30 years from now.
Yup. BUY or RENT decision is like you've said. Its more than the quantitative numbers. There are also qualitative personal and macro factors to consider.
:)
Hi SMOL,
DeleteThanks for your sharing.
To tell the truth, my post is biased towards BUY. After I have concluded that buying and not renting is better for the cashflow. And yes, off-tangent I went.
Nobody wishes for HDB's appreciation to fall BELOW the annual CPF 2.5% interest. But looking at the bright side, we don't have to refund the shortfall if that's the case https://www.cpf.gov.sg/members/FAQ/schemes/housing/housing-scheme/FAQDetails?category=housing&group=Housing+Scheme&ajfaqid=3872902&folderid=11482